This Week In College Viability (TWICV) for June 30, 2025

Gary D Stocker (00:01.294)
Welcome back. It's June 30, 2025. Time for yet another podcast episode of This Week in College Viability News and Commentary. Hi, everybody. Gary Stocker back, as always, on a Monday recording the podcast. Thanks, as always, for listening. Lots of layoff and cutback announcements this past week. Probably time for a period when not many faculty and students are paying attention to college news.

Cornell College in Iowa, steering away from financial focus to one maybe marketing hail Mary. We'll talk about the details of that. I'll show you the numbers. And my alma mater, Eastern Illinois University, got a story that shows the typical plight of both public and private colleges. The tuition discount rate continues to grow higher and larger. Good for the students, for sure. Not so good for many colleges. And Seth O'Dell.

A guy who does a lot of good stuff that I read on LinkedIn and other social media talks about it's the trend that matters in terms of enrollment. And he notes that enrollment is still down from pre-pandemic numbers, even though many colleges try and say a jump from one term to the next is a big deal. It's not. And in a newsletter story from a gentleman named Anand Sanwar that suggests colleges get some skin in the game.

just like every other industry has had to do over time this and much, much, much more layoffs and cutbacks. San Francisco State took out three athletic programs. This is from the NBC Bay Area staff on, this was published on March 6th, so it's been a little while ago. And I post this because it's, we're going to see this story and other stories like it more and more as the combination of poor college finances.

and the need for more college dollars to field competitive major sports teams, especially the Power Four level. And we've seen this in other stories I've had and other media sources. If, for example, the Power Four teams, the Big East, I'm sorry, the Big Ten, the SEC, the ACC, the Big 12, if those conference teams are laying off employees, and they are, there are stories about that regularly, what's going to happen?

Gary D Stocker (02:25.23)
For the less prosperous level of colleges, those that's called FCS schools, how are they going to stay competitive? They're not. They're not going to be able to afford that. But what's going to be fascinating to watch is what happens to those what they call Olympic sports, your tennis, your golf, your wrestling, those kind of things. Are they going to survive? I don't know. Stanford, that's not a small school. Stanford University to lay off staff.

cut $140 million from its budget. This is from Mike Nitzel. The details are in the story as always. I'll have the links there and just here's the story. This is yet another big player, big brand, big name reacting to probably, possibly losing federal money. And like I've shared before and others as well, they're not going to suffer. They're going to reach down and get whatever number of students they need.

to make up whatever losses they're going to suffer, or least most of the losses, they're going to suffer from the federal government. But the stories go on and on. Sonoma State slash programs cut all their athletics. And now it's getting $45 million from the California state budget.

This is from Katie Nielsen, CBS San Francisco on June 25th. And here's part of Ms. Nielsen's story. Sonoma State University faced major pushback from students when it decided to slash its entire athletic program. That was about 250 to 300 some odd students and cut several degree programs to address a $24 million budget deficit. But now it will be getting $45 million.

as a one time, so they say, as a one time infusion from the state budget. Here's an interesting caveat. But last week, the university sent out an email to staff, an email to staff saying NCAA athletics will not be reinstated, will not be reinstated for the 2025-2026 school year. Huge blow to coaches and players. And I have to wonder

Gary D Stocker (04:39.566)
That'll be a full year without coaches. I wonder how they could recover from that. It's not going to be pretty. Enrollment, Esonoma State down 40 % over the past 10 years. And they're going to try and boost programs. They reference 16 million for a nursing program, 5 million for a data science center, 5 million for a career center, and on and on it goes. And maybe, maybe they get a return on that investment. But again, let's not ever lose sight of the fact.

Let's never lose sight of the fact that they're facing competition for nursing and IT and data science and career centers.

Gary D Stocker (05:20.152)
how they survive and compete will be fascinating to watch.

And it's from my perspective, it's important to project, even though this is a single event at a single college, Sonoma State in California, it's really part of my wider operating beliefs, my wider operating theory. This will continue to happen. And on to the next story. USC Southern Cal plans to order significant budget cuts. Another one of the big boys. Some units will see reductions as high as 10 percent.

And the story comes from Tomo Chin on June 8th from the morningtrojan.com. Academic cuts will be about 5%. Mr. Chin wrote admin cuts up to 10%. And so it continues. Page two. When a college closes, something either happens or it doesn't happen. Birmingham Southern College.

after a year being closed remains closed as neighbors hope for new life on campus. This is from WBRC in Birmingham on June 23rd. College closed, they had an offer to purchase, maybe a couple offers to purchase, and for whatever reason Birmingham Southern's existing leadership, whatever that looks like, said no. And the current owners, including what's left of the college administration, have remained tight lipped. The story reports.

only assuring the public that the campus is secure, maintained, and being marketed internationally through a private firm and to their credit. The neighborhood reports that the college is being maintained the grass mode. There is security available. But for those community leaders around the country, and there are many with financially strapped, financially unhealthy colleges,

Gary D Stocker (07:16.362)
Many of them cannot possibly survive in their current business form.

is probably starting time or past starting time to start thinking, if I'm one of those community leaders, what I'm going to do if that small college in my community cannot survive the current higher education consolidation. Innovation. Mike Nitzel has a story at Forbes on June 24th. Cornell College in Iowa. They have an early financial aid promise and Nitzel calls this a trendsetter. All right, we'll give him the editorial on that.

And I will provide, for what it's worth, points for creativity to Cornell College. But as usual, and you know where I'm headed, regular listeners know, but as usual, let's look at the real reason for this shot in the dark marketing blitz. And essentially, Cornell College is going to give a large number of students guaranteed admission and guaranteed pricing. There are a lot of details behind that, but that's the gist of what's going on. And they're trying to do it for next year.

So, and then Cornell College, their college is in much worse shape for sure. Their full-time enrollment is up about a point over the last six years. Their four-year graduation rate around 60%, not bad. Many, many, many are worse than that. Retention is 74%, a little bit below the 2023 mean of 86%. Interestingly, the percent admitted is up 10 points.

The endowment is at $92 million. The average draw has been around 6 % the last eight years, a little high, nothing to fall out of a chair over. This one is concerning, the endowment growth, because there has been a slightly higher draw. The endowment growth is up 23%. All right, maybe you pat yourself on the back for that. Endowment growth up 23 % for the median for some $1,300.

Gary D Stocker (09:13.582)
Private colleges, the median endowment growth is 40%. So the good folks at Cornell College are a little bit more than half of that 40%. They're going to fall behind. That's one of the things that's going lead them to have competitive issues. If their endowment gets lower than their competitors, either the draws have to be bigger or they have to find other ways to come up with cash. And they've still had to do discounts. The tuition discounts are up more than $12 million in the last eight years.

to 33 million, again, good for the students, not so good for the colleges to be able to eat payroll and to keep the lights on. The net income margin here is concerned down 13 points. And this is a fall out of your chair number. And again, on the podcast and on the college financial health show with Matt Hendricks and Gary Stocker, we see this way too much. At Cornell College in Iowa, the total operating revenue is up 10%.

over the last eight reported years. Revenues up 10%. Total operating expenses up 31%.

Gary D Stocker (10:24.174)
10 % on revenue, up 31 % on expenses. Somebody at Columbia College needs to hide the checkbook. They're spending way more than they're taking in. They're going to try and grow out of it. I suppose there's nothing wrong with that philosophically, but it's a tight market. Too many colleges, too many college seats, not enough students. Good luck to Cornell College. And of course, that data comes from my own 2025 college viability app.

and Matt Hendrickson advanced compass app from Perspective Data Science. was social media friend that commented to me on this story that for the 16000 inquiries that they I think they have at Cornell College, they better have non-stop campus visitations this summer from July 4th until they were needed to get them all in the door. And he or she suggests that test driving the car, in this case, the college car, is

is important before you buy or decide to attend that college. The alma mater, my alma mater, Eastern Illinois University, Charleston, Illinois. Cameron Hardy, a senior reporter for the Daily Eastern News on June 27th. Amid a gap in state funding, the University of Illinois' enrollment surges while directional schools, northern, southern, eastern, western Illinois decline. And there have been stories like this before. And in one of the ways

in a story that Mr. Hardy reports, one of the ways that Eastern is attempting to improve enrollment is by offering grants to students. Well, I'm guessing they've already been doing that. And here's the concern I have for that. in most cases, grants, especially college offered grants are nothing more than discounts. They're unfunded institutional grants, no money behind them.

So a grant is in almost all cases, no revenue. So how does admitting students without getting any revenue solve financial problems? And they cite a couple of different grants in the story. Again, the same thing. And maybe I'm wrong. I don't think I am. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there is some revenue transferred to Eastern Illinois books, EIU books for these grants. It's usually not the case.

Gary D Stocker (12:50.484)
And if you're at Eastern Illinois and want to reach out to me, I'm Gary at College Viability. That's one word. Let me know that there are actual dollars coming behind that. I'll certainly add that fact to a future story. Page three, Greg Pilar really writes some good stuff. And he has got a newsletter called Field Notes with Greg Pilar. And he posted the story that was big last week about the states, about the six states launching their own

accreditation agency and there was state public colleges in six states saying they were going to form our own accreditation agency. Well, first of all, I'll bet a buck fifty of my own money. Whole dollar and fifty cents. goes nowhere.

I will bet you that buck 50 double down, this is more of a political public relations play by the Southern States and they were all Southern States. But I did, was another, the story was all over last week and I did post response to an analysis from a Mr. Whistle who writes for New America and he makes a good case for protecting the current accreditation model. right, overall good case. I have a concern I want to share.

There's an education triad, it's the federal government, state government, and accrediting agencies, I believe. And in my response, essentially says, you know, good idea. I'm on board with maintaining the accreditors conditionally. Because state by state, as Mr. Whistle correctly shares, state by state accreditation would indeed be a wild, wild, wild west of inconsistency and even danger.

And the weakness, I think, I believe, in his overall solid discussion of the accreditation model is the continuing assumption that Mr. Whistle shares that the current model and set of accreditors, HLC, SacSoc, Middle States, and the other five or six, the current model and set of accreditors provide the needed monitoring of college's academic and financial competence. All right, you've heard me say many times.

Gary D Stocker (15:09.376)
that the current set of accreditors have devolved, current accreditors have devolved into becoming i-doctors and t-crossers. They monitor only inputs and effectively not outputs. Example, a generally accepted national average for four-year graduation rates, undergraduate graduation rates, for public and private not-for-profit colleges is somewhere south of 50%.

not even half of students at all public and private four-year colleges graduate in four years.

Yet these colleges with four-year graduation rates considerably below 50 % considerably in the 30s, some in the 20s, some lower than that.

These colleges not graduating students are still accredited.

Gary D Stocker (16:04.504)
They still pay their accreditation dues to their creditor. And those colleges that can't graduate anywhere close to 50 % of their students are still receiving their title four funds. So if these creditors say they're providing quality assurance, where is the quality assurance in that scenario?

As you've heard me say, colleges are paid to graduate students, not just to enroll them for their tuition revenue. And on the issue of college financial health, new reviews and comparisons of audited financial statements indicate a large, large number of private colleges, mostly, and some publics, in the depths of financial chaos. These colleges are chronically

chronically long term, lacking the financial resources to provide anything close to a quality college education for their students. And I think we see this when we see the increasing number of short notice college closures. They say we're fine, we're fine, we're fine, we're fine, we're closed. But a step in the right direction, a big step,

in the right direction of maintaining the i-dotting and t-crossing.

would be to remove the financial monitoring of colleges from these creditors. They're not doing a good job. In so many ways, they're not doing a good job. They don't have the skills, the resources, the tools.

Gary D Stocker (17:45.686)
do it, they're already a higher education, they're already higher education data entrepreneurs who can provide objective data-driven assessment of a college's financial health and even their viability. I'm one of them, Matt Hendricks is one of them, Rebecca Mazzone is one of them, and there are others. If the current triad that Mr. Wissler describes is to survive, the set of existing creditors needs to be removed as the sole gatekeepers.

to those Title IV funds for colleges. Their inherent conflict of interest, and that is associated with their main revenue source coming from the colleges they review, has to be a non-starter, and yet that's way it's been for decades and decades. Talk about a conflict of interest. So let's move. Let's move to more of a consumer reports model that provides comparisons.

comparisons and trends of objective college financial and even output data, graduation rates. College consumers, students and their families can determine who gets access to Title IV funds by making more informed decisions about which colleges deserve their business based on graduation rates and financial health. In the coming weeks, come a little advertisement here, in the coming weeks, I will be releasing a set of products

for students and families that has the potential, has the potential to become the equivalent kind of a reverse FAFSA.

FAFSA, of course, is a tool that parents and families submit their financial information. College Viability is developing a tool that will easily and clearly show families and students which colleges are financially stronger and which are weaker. And something else to ponder, the current accreditor in that southern region is SACSAC. Southern Accreditation, I don't know stands for. If SACSAC...

Gary D Stocker (19:48.632)
takes a serious revenue hit from these public colleges leaving in these handful of states, what impact will that have on the remaining major accreditation players? Will we kind of have a situation where we have a cart pulling the horse, where the colleges were supposed to be reviewed, where those colleges aren't in position because they're paying their creditors?

Those colleges are in a position to tell accreditors what they will and won't do. Think about that again. If the colleges have the purse strings for these accreditors, well, it could become a scenario where the colleges will say, if you don't accept what we're doing, we'll find another accreditor.

And the scenario could include those are creditors yielding maybe legitimate quality and financial concerns because potential revenue losses to their business. that's no way to run a ship. I will add Robert Kelch and Bob Kelch and out of the University of Tennessee did note that the University of Tennessee would look at this, whatever creditor came out, if it does as a supplemental creditor, not a replacement. So that's an interesting nuance.

the whole story. Tuition discounting.

Tuition discounting hits another high and again, Nakubo's latest study shows that the riot rate keeps going higher and higher and higher. It's mid 50s plus. Josh Moody had the story on inside higher education. And this just reinforces, just reinforces that enrollment does not keep the college ship of state afloat. Colleges, as we've seen with closures and cutbacks and layoffs, colleges cannot continue to give away the store just

Gary D Stocker (21:41.262)
to get students in the door. Hey, I've got a new number I can use, 86%. The National Student Clearinghouse reported last week on June 26th, and Ben Inglesby at Higher Ed Dive had the story. 86 % is the average first year, I believe, retention for new students. I'm going to use that. your first year retention rate is below 86%, I'm going to add that to my regular go-to data section comparison.

page four.

Gary D Stocker (22:15.48)
Seth O'Dell, again, good guy, writes some good stuff on social media. He makes the point that colleges, and I've done this before, I think, but he reinforces, colleges are saying, hey, our enrollment is up. And they're doing a comparison from one semester to the next or one year to the next or maybe two years.

And so it's, you know, they're trying to create the perception that we've finally recovered from the COVID dip.

but the trend they're looking at is too short. And Seth O'Dell notes this. He says, zoom out and it's a different stories. Seth O'Dell notes, we're still well below pre-COVID levels and we're still way below the 2010 peak on enrollment. So college spin, they're welcome to do it, but we're going to spin right back and show the actual data. And he notes, when you consider amounting price pressures, shifting population dynamics, declining employer demand.

and declining consumer confidence, the reality of our mature, interesting choice of words, the reality of our mature consolidating market can't be ignored. Yes, enrollment is up, let's not confuse, Mr. O'Dell says, let's not confuse a short bump with a long-term recovery. And finally, rap, Anand Sanwal, he is a founder of CB Insights and his

newsletter article that I think was posted on social media and I'll post a link on show notes. He says, skin in the game, fixing higher education student debt problem. This is from November last year, but I just saw this. He notes that many young people are graduating into limited job prospects and lifelong debt. We've seen this before. We've heard this before. All while, all while Mr. Anwell notes,

Gary D Stocker (24:07.956)
all while the institutions that sold them that dream face zero accountability. He noticed that today's sellers, colleges, face zero consequences for failures. Buyers, students, can't discharge debt through bankruptcy. And then taxpayers foot the bill for defaults when students cannot repay their loans. He suggests two simple market reforms.

make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy, dischargeable in bankruptcy. That's not fun because there's a significant negative credit consequence when you declare bankruptcy. And require universities to underwrite 80, 80 % of student loans and eat losses. This is part of the big, beautiful bill. believe I don't remember the percentage. He notes, Mr. Anwal notes this would force colleges to care about graduate outcomes.

kill predatory programs that create no value, protect low-income students from exploitation. I've got a podcast coming up on that, and create real accountability for colleges. And he finally concludes with, when cars are defective, and we drive them off the lot, manufacturers pay for repairs or recall them. But when degrees don't deliver promised or suggested or implied

compensation results, universities simply walk away. why do we let, Mr. Anwal argues, why do we let universities keep selling $200,000 lemons, that's a car term, $200,000 lemons that don't work? And that's right. And Mr. Anwal notes that it's time to bring market discipline to higher education. He's right. And it's already happening. It's too slow for many, but it's happening.

And let's go back to that FAFSA as another example. Colleges get financial information for students, but students and their families are hard pressed to get reliable information about the financial health of colleges, even the viability of colleges. Colleges let students declare what they know will be lemon degrees. Many of them are liberal arts degrees.

Gary D Stocker (26:31.84)
And then those same colleges watch those students spend tens of thousands of dollars to get a degree with no reasonable chance to earn enough of a living to both pay it back, pay that loan back, and live. When those students walk across the graduation stage today, today that college walks away from any responsibility for the lemon of a degree that they consciously

And Mr. Ron Wall is just one of many pressuring higher education as an industry to assume some lemon law risk for students. Mr. Ron Wall, for what it's worth, you can count me as a supporter. Hey, as always, thanks so much for making time to listen to the podcast. You got some comments, some ideas, some thoughts, send them to me at garyatcollegeviability.com. That's college viability, one word, sometimes tough to spell on the keyboard.

Gary at collegeviability.com. Happy to respond, happy to listen, happy to add content to the show. And next Monday will be in July. It'll be July 7, 2025. I'll be back then. As always, thanks for listening.